Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by Michel » 23 Mar 2022, 22:14

Kakvo raskrinkavanje Seagala bilo je dobrih videa i prije ali ovaj :supz:

By taking himself so damn seriously all the time he's turned himself into a meme. Now no one takes him seriously.
In one of Seagal’s direct to video movies, which he also wrote, there’s a scene which perfectly captures how Seagal sees himself. He stops being a mercenary for a moment to play chess with a wise old man. It’s over as soon as it started, when in a close up of the wise old man, he says : “Only a brilliant strategist could beat me in one move.”
Terrific video, but it's important to note that the negativity surrounding Seagal is mainly self-inflicted. Seagal has told countless stories that collapse under the weight of even a modicum of research. The evidence suggests that Seagal is a serial fabricator, so his denials of being abusive to women and stuntmen carry no legitimate weight.
he's actually a master at pretending to do things
He is a master in the ancient art of bullshido
As someone who has been making martial arts documentaries, i know how difficult it is, and really appreciate all the work youve put in here. Well researched, and entertaining the whole way through. Great work!!
The guy is simply a narcissist! People with this personality disorder, do everything they can to appear, or look bigger, better, and more important than they really are. If he hadn't achieved notoriety as a movie star, he would be just another narcissist like so many others! This is Steven Segal!
I've always loved that clip at the very end. His ridiculous pronunciation of "buddha" and the fact that he was definitely on the verge of throwing up while telling that story make it a classic.
I don’t care what you say about Steven, he runs like a girl
When I was younger I used to really appreciate this guy but that was being young and ignorant as to who he really was. I remember joining an Aikido dojo and the Sensei there had no respect for Steven Seagal at which time I didn't really understand. But in this day I clearly understand
Master Seagal is a complicated man. It takes years to master the art of Horse Shit. He is so committed even though someone literally choked him till he shit his pants and backed down from a real fight with Van Dam he still claims to be the best..
He went from pretending to be Italian to Asian to Native American to a black dude from the South. Does he not realize how ridiculous he is or does he realize and just not care?
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Worked 30 years in the industry... worked on 2-3 of Seagal’s films back in the day (as well as stunts with Lebell), Steven was a nut. Stuntmen I knew had horror stories about him. Everything Lambert is saying seems accurate to me based on what I experienced in my Journey through the business in the mid to late 80’s through the 90’s and 2000’s.

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Ben Rocky
Ben Rocky
prije 10 mjeseci
yeah I heard Steve is a maniac on movie sets but which Steve's movies you worked on?



Joez86
Joez86
prije 10 mjeseci
@Ben Rocky “Seven Year Storm” which was later changed to “Hard To Kill” - got to watch the set ups of the liquor store sequence with a young Robert LaSardo. I was suppose to stand in and double him in the 1st “Under Siege” but production went to a non union state back east to shoot and wanted to pay me $60.00 A DAY (non union)!!! So I walked off that. Lots of it is a blur cuz this goes back 30 years ago!!! But he (Steven) tried offering SAG (union cards) to me and other people to get us to do stuff... I already had my guild card, didn’t need it, or him. Interesting times :)

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@Ben Rocky oh I recall 2nd unit work (doubling) in Bahamas? Or maybe another gig? Back then I was working every week (from extra work, to stand in and double gigs to stunt doubling). Worked on hundreds of sets yearly from B movies like David Carradine’s “warlords” to “A” films like Spielberg’s “Jurassic Park”. Seagal was in between all the work. When I would work with Henrie Kenji (stunt legend), he’d give me the scoop on Seagal too. Steven was very well known for hitting the stunt guys but did not want to get hit back!! David Carradine was much like this as well but he was an alcoholic on the sets and knew nothing about the martial arts. He faked it all.

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Ben Rocky
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@Joez86 so working with Steve was that painful ?



Joez86
Joez86
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@Ben Rocky no never thought about it. Just that he wasn’t normal. I mean when I told him I “didn’t need a SAG card cuz I already had one”, his reply was (slow and deliberate)... almost condescending.. “oh so you’re content.” I told him “yeah, I was.” He really thought he was all that. I use to watch him walk in my gym on Melrose Ave in Beverly Hills (after “Above The Law” came out) and hit the peck machine. Did one set of several reps and then left the gym. That’s it. that was his chest day. Just an odd ball. Talked to me like he was this Holy’er than thou kind of way etc. Made promises to my friends and never kept them, hurt people, prima donna attitude ughhh .... but remember this was 30 years ago. But based on what I experienced - everything people have said about him since fits what I experienced.

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Ben Rocky
Ben Rocky
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@Joez86 Now he's just a meme.

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The Dopesick Show
The Dopesick Show
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@Joez86 it sounds like you could write a book with what you've been through, you should consider putting it on paper.

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Joez86
Joez86
prije 9 mjeseci
@The Dopesick Show yeah trust me I could- but Steven seems to have a good book out here that sounds very accurate. Maybe one day I’ll share. But now isn’t the time. But I have documented a lot of it 😆

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The Dopesick Show
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@Joez86 Definitely think about it, a NY times bestseller called Dopesick by Beth Macy has my story, I'm the only one who's still alive actually. With a little help I'm writing my own now. Judo, bjj, and boxing have changed my life and I love hearing stories anout Gene from the Seagal incident to the Milo Savage fight.
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by John_Ryder » 23 Mar 2022, 22:28

nemoj mi stevu segala dirat, ikona mog djetinjstva!!!!
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by Michel » 23 Mar 2022, 22:45

Ikona je i mog djetinjstva ali bio je loš ćovik. Ćao.
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by John_Ryder » 23 Mar 2022, 23:51

Michel wrote:
23 Mar 2022, 22:45
Ikona je i mog djetinjstva ali bio je loš ćovik. Ćao.
zato što je zakarao sluškinju i tražio da ga masira?
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by Michel » 24 Mar 2022, 00:12

Daj Ryderu mislio sam da se šališ prvo. Ok, i ja sam ga volio kao klinac ali stari moj lik je patološki lažov i narcist. To što je zlostavljao, da, to mu se isto zamjera ali sve je počelo s njegovim lažima. Lik je odvratan kao osoba pa daj pogle video ako želiš saznati istinu. Ili pogledaj ovaj video.


Lik laže o Bruceu Leeu i Brandon Leeu da je radio za CIA, da je ovo da je ono znači sve što je ikad rekao je laž. I to se sve da provjerit jer ne postoji niti jedan dokaz za njegove tvrdnje. A da ne pričam o ljudima koji su s njime radili pa niti jedan nema dobru riječ o njemu. Kužim da si bio fan, i ja sam ali to ne znači da ne možemo kritički razmišljati.


Osvjesti se.
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by John_Ryder » 24 Mar 2022, 02:44

Nova istina o Seagalu, nedjelja! Osvjestit ćeš se ti i past sa stolice!
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by john_constantine » 24 Mar 2022, 08:17

Steve je oduvijek lažljivac, za to ne treba razoktrivanje.
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by Michel » 24 Mar 2022, 16:14

John_Ryder wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 02:44
Nova istina o Seagalu, nedjelja! Osvjestit ćeš se ti i past sa stolice!
:kokicarenje:
john_constantine wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 08:17
Steve je oduvijek lažljivac, za to ne treba razoktrivanje.
Jel i tebi bio idol u djetinjstvu? Al ja sam ga stvarno volio gledati kad sam bio klinac. Jednostavno oni pokreti s rukama, rep iza baš uvijek bio kul kao klincu.
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by John_Ryder » 24 Mar 2022, 21:05

meni je i sada kul
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by Michel » 24 Mar 2022, 21:17

Što točno voliš kod njega ovako u odrasloj dobi?
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by john_constantine » 24 Mar 2022, 21:34

Michel wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 16:14
John_Ryder wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 02:44
Nova istina o Seagalu, nedjelja! Osvjestit ćeš se ti i past sa stolice!
:kokicarenje:
john_constantine wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 08:17
Steve je oduvijek lažljivac, za to ne treba razoktrivanje.
Jel i tebi bio idol u djetinjstvu? Al ja sam ga stvarno volio gledati kad sam bio klinac. Jednostavno oni pokreti s rukama, rep iza baš uvijek bio kul kao klincu.
Pogledao sam sve njegove filmove. Bio je dobar prvih 7 - 8 filmova, onda je postalo sve lošije.
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by Michel » 24 Mar 2022, 21:44

S time se slažem. Oni prvi filmovi baš uživancija
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by John_Ryder » 24 Mar 2022, 22:33

Michel wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 21:17
Što točno voliš kod njega ovako u odrasloj dobi?
Realni Aikido i repić.
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by hitman_4 » 24 Mar 2022, 23:17



realni aikido i podkast inkjubator. s tom zajebanijom su se probijali. bađun na vrhuncu popularnosti
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Re: Raskrinkavanja (fraudi, zavjere i ostalo)

Post by Michel » 24 Mar 2022, 23:17

John_Ryder wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 22:33
Michel wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 21:17
Što točno voliš kod njega ovako u odrasloj dobi?
Realni Aikido i repić.
:zubifale:
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