Justice League (2017)

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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by Michel » 15 Nov 2017, 21:15

Film trenutno dobiva i ne baš pozitivne reakcije. Ima pozitivnih, ali ima i negativnih. Najviše ih je mixed http://www.metacritic.com/movie/justice-league

Rotten je isto porcurio i bilo je 48% prije nego što su maknuli. Nekako očekivano. DCEU mora stati sa svojim filmovima jer ovako ne ide. Moraju se srediti u glavi i polagano početi snimati, a ne ovako preskakati.
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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by john_constantine » 16 Nov 2017, 06:31

Rezervirao sam karte za subotu. A dobro je da su izbacili Zacka Syndera, ali ako se humor bazira na glupe komentare od aquamana... Vidjeti ćemo.
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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by HorrorHR » 16 Nov 2017, 09:56

Rotten Tomatoes recently announced it would be holding back from publishing the cumulative score for the film until Thursday, November 16, the day before its release. As others have pointed out, this move presents a potential conflict of interest because Tomatoes is owned by Fandango, which Warner Brothers has a partial ownership stake in. While perhaps not part of an actual conspiracy, the delay is at the very least ethically fishy.
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Correction: An earlier version of this story said that Warner Bros. had delayed the movie’s score, it was instead withheld by the Rotten Tomatoes editorial team so that it could be revealed on their new Facebook Watch show. We regret the error.
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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by HorrorHR » 16 Nov 2017, 10:02

katastrofa im fora, kao gledaj video da vidis live otvaranje scorea ;) 43% kada su ga izbacili, na rottentomaties sajtu ga jos nema. ukratko, loš score, kao "transparentno" smo ga objavili u videu (koji nitko ne gleda), dok je na sajtu (kojeg svi otvaraju) napisano da nema scorea... kretenarije...

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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by Michel » 16 Nov 2017, 14:27

john_constantine wrote:
16 Nov 2017, 06:31
Rezervirao sam karte za subotu. A dobro je da su izbacili Zacka Syndera, ali ako se humor bazira na glupe komentare od aquamana... Vidjeti ćemo.
Samo da te upozorim ovo je većinski Zackov film. On je čitavi film snimio i poslao WB-u i kad su oni pogledali nisu bili zadovoljni i sve su to zataškali tako da kao Zack ima problema doma. Sve je to detaljno opisano na superhero forumu. Znači, cijeli film je od Zacka, samo što je editiran i Whedon je dodatno ubacio svoj humor u neke scene. Ajmo reći da je 90% Zack - 10% Whedon.

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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by john_constantine » 16 Nov 2017, 16:17

Michel wrote:
16 Nov 2017, 14:27
john_constantine wrote:
16 Nov 2017, 06:31
Rezervirao sam karte za subotu. A dobro je da su izbacili Zacka Syndera, ali ako se humor bazira na glupe komentare od aquamana... Vidjeti ćemo.
Samo da te upozorim ovo je većinski Zackov film. On je čitavi film snimio i poslao WB-u i kad su oni pogledali nisu bili zadovoljni i sve su to zataškali tako da kao Zack ima problema doma. Sve je to detaljno opisano na superhero forumu. Znači, cijeli film je od Zacka, samo što je editiran i Whedon je dodatno ubacio svoj humor u neke scene. Ajmo reći da je 90% Zack - 10% Whedon.

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Jbg.. Tako sam i mislio. Po traileru se vidi da je Zackov film, ali bitno da je dobio nogu za ubuduće.
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Post by HorrorHR » 16 Nov 2017, 17:08

Samo da te upozorim ovo je većinski Zackov film. On je čitavi film snimio i poslao WB-u i kad su oni pogledali nisu bili zadovoljni i sve su to zataškali tako da kao Zack ima problema doma. Sve je to detaljno opisano na superhero forumu. Znači, cijeli film je od Zacka, samo što je editiran i Whedon je dodatno ubacio svoj humor u neke scene. Ajmo reći da je 90% Zack - 10% Whedon.
ono kao ubila mu se kćerka?

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Post by Michel » 16 Nov 2017, 17:25

Nažalost da i tako se poklopilo. Imaš sve ovdje stvarno detaljno. WB nije bio zadovoljan sa filmom i eto, iskoristili su to što mu je umrla kćerka. http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=534345 Whedon je ubačen i samo radi tog editinga i ubacivanja humora. Sve ostalo se vidi da je Zack (akcijske scene, viuzalno je totalno on).
Here's my honest opinion about what happened with Snyder's cut, coming from a Snyder fan. I see everyone assuming that Zack put too much "setup for other films." I don't think that was the case, in fact it seems to have become a foregone conclusion that there was a whole Deathstroke subplot in the film when for ALL we know Deathstroke was never in the movie to begin with. All we know for fact is that they did a screen test for Deathstroke last year with Mangienello to prep for Affleck's solo film. Even if he was in the movie, I'm sure it was a quick two minute scene, there definitely wasn't any fight scene with Batman or anything.

No, what I think happened was Zack's original cut was long, not as long as BvS but pretty long, pushing maybe 160 minutes. Just going by the way he filmed BvS, and watchmen, Snyder likes to take his time with scenes and let them breathe. I feel that his original JL movie was more in line with BvS, a slow building film that culminates in a crazy balls to the wall 3rd act. We probably had a good chunk of time dedicated to Barry's backstory, we meet his dad, meet Iris, get a peek into his personal life. Same with Vic Stone, same with Arthur. That alone, probably took up a good 30-40 minutes of film time and I think Johns, Berg and the other execs did not want that, they wanted a faster paced action film. They wanted Guardians of the Galaxy. The honest truth is, the other big complaint with BvS along with the "too dark" complaint was that it was "too boring." People didn't like the dramatic build up and just wanted to see more Batman and Superman action and I think WB heard that complaint and took it to heart. JL could not be allowed to be anywhere near as contemplative as BvS and I think the original edit probably was just because I think that's Snyder's style and how he views these characters. He probably focused a lot on internal turmoil of Barry, Arthur and Vic and maybe even Clark as well, once he was resurrected, and the studio (justifiably) wasn't havin' that.

So, they brought in Whedon to cut down the fat. The modus operandi was "make this movie mean and lean. Excise anything not 100% necessary" And that's what Whedon did. But by removing stuff you also gotta add stuff to make sure the movie flows nicely. And they figured, "Heck, while we've got Whedon, lets have him punch up the dialogue and humor the film up even more. A lean, mean, action packed, humorous JL movie is 100% guaranteed to win the people over who were burned by BvS last time." And I think that pretty much sums it up.
Što samo potvrđuje jer i DCEU nije htio pustiti film kritičarima prije, a to inače svi rade. MCU to oduvijek radi i tako je bilo sa Thorom i dobio je super pozitivne pohvale, a DCEU se vjerojatno bojao da neće dobiti i bili su u pravu. Poanta je film je snimljen cijeli prije nego što je Whedon došao. Whedon je došao da ga završi editira i ubaci malo svojeg humora. Nije sigurno snimao film od početka.
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Re: Justice League (2017)

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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by john_constantine » 18 Nov 2017, 19:42

Pogledao danas u kinima i dalje su marvelovi filmovi najbolji i zabavniji. Dijalozi između ekipe i općenito su prilično loši. Ben Affleck nikako ne paše uloga Batmana, a i najlošije prikazan Batman. Naročito pri kraj kakve gluposti govori. Flash je tek počeo, ali malo je naporan kao nerd koji ne zna komunicirati. Cyborg je solidan. Wonder woman solidna. Aquaman napuhan. Jednostavno, dijalozi i njihova međusobna dobacivanja su bezveze. Akcija je dobra, makar nema niti cameo pojave Darkseida. Steppenwolf solidan negativac, ali koji vrag je s Batmanom i njim da tako glupo i usporeno govore... Ne znam, malo bolje od Batman vs Superman, ali isti kalup. Slow motion, režija, ponavljanje i naporna Lois Lane. Nisam baš izašao oduševljen iz kina. Ali bar je završni fajt dobar. Samo nije film koji bi često gledao. 3\5
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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by maddjuro » 21 Nov 2017, 02:38

Slazem se sa vama koji velite da je film u najbolju ruku 5/10. Likovi su kolikotoliko solidno odrađeni, Jason Momoa (lik koji je glumio aquamana) ponaša se, izgleda čak i prodaje skoro pa iste fore kao lik kojega je glumio u strgate atlantisu. Slažem se da assfleck nije za ulogu batmana. Film koji je za pogledati ako ste baš teži fan DCa. Osobno cu se radije držati animiranih Dc-ovih uradaka
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Re: Justice League (2017)

Post by olio » 30 Nov 2017, 01:18

Meni cak nije toliko los. Gledljiv.

Najveci minus je sto je ocito koje su scene naknadno snimane i montaza filma je uzasna. Scene imaju uzasne prelaze.

CGI na trenutke uzasan.

Iznenaden sam sto mi kraj nije bio los, jer to mi je najveca boljka kod svih superherojskih filmova (skoro svih).

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Post by dr_gonzo » 03 Dec 2017, 21:58

Bah. Jopet lose odradjeno.

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