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Post by John_Ryder » 16 Jan 2018, 16:38

i dalje ne kužim kakve koristi ima od fejkanja parkinsonove bolesti
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Re: Cooper, Icke, Jones, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by hitman_4 » 16 Jan 2018, 17:53

John_Ryder wrote:
16 Jan 2018, 16:38
i dalje ne kužim kakve koristi ima od fejkanja parkinsonove bolesti
pa da se može smijati michelu i svijetu iz dana u dan. Fejkam parkins hahaha M, fejkam parkins hahaha M. Neviđeno ruganje

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Re: Cooper, Icke, Jones, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by Michel » 16 Jan 2018, 18:09

Stephen Hawking ima bolest s kojom je izuzetno rijetko preživjeti 20 godina, a kamoli 57 godina kao on. Zna se odavno da ono nije pravi Hawking kao i sad se zna da ovaj fejka parkinsovu. Ima previše dokaza i nije da ima parkinsovu godinu dana. Lik je dobio sa 29 godina. Rekao sam zašto. Ako ne pratite, nema smisla ponavljati. Ali uglavnom elitica/illuminati su ovisnici o simbolici, brojevima i ovo je sv jedan veliki igrokraz i reality show. Kao Truman Show. Zna Jim Carrey što se događa, samo treba malo pogledati njegove zadnje intervjue.

Nije dugo trebalo. Očekivano nekako.


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Post by hitman_4 » 16 Jan 2018, 18:19

naravno da i tu vidiš zavjeru :rolleyes:

M je inače poludio zbog ovog filma viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9297 :zubifale:

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Re: Cooper, Icke, Jones, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by Michel » 23 Jan 2018, 03:27

Kako izvrsna analiza. Otkrio sam ovaj kanal nedavno. Jedan od boljih analiza zadnjih godina. Stvarno postavlja dobra pitanja, a za Neila Tysona se već zna da je schill.


I remember when I was watching Cosmos that Neil deGrasse Tyson was riding one of those anti-gravity, UFO, thingy Mc jiggies. I really don't know why he is denying there existence now, when he has rode in one himself! 😠
Neil deGrasse Tyson? More like, Neil disGrasse Tyson! How sad! True scientists just CANNOT be arrogant! Arrogance kills curiosity, and discovery.
Neil is part of a disinformation program he is paid to do this, his acting skills are so bad it was obvious to many he was trying to rally support and a laugh out of the reporters, he appeared absolutely silly and fake.
I dobro je pitanje postavio koje nitko ne postavlja. Kaže, znate što ovo znači a nitko ne misli o tome? Da nas vlada i dalje laže jer su sad izašli sa takvim videom a govore da toga nema. Da su prestali istraživati još 50-ih zajedno sa blue book, a sad izašli sa videom. Znači, lažu nas. Kao za Area 51, svakog optuživali da nije istina a onda 2013. rekli da, Area 51 postoji ali tamo što se radi je tajna :lol: kakvi panjevi.

Nevjerojatna analiza.
Hey Jimmy, I'm a new subscriber to your channel and I'm absolutely loving it!!!! Ever since I saw your video about Tesla, I knew you were a person who really has a determination to unveil the truth, and educate others about the world. A topic I've been wondering about is parallel realities. I know there is tons of videos about this topic, but I want to hear from your point of view what you think about this topic. Keep up the fantastic work!!!
To me, Neil deGrasse Tyson typifies many in the scientific world: Close minded, arrogant, elitist, afraid to be serious or entertain anything outside of their world view or experience. See Graham Hancock and the hell the main stream archaeologists and media have put him through for just positing that civilization may be older than previously believed. Keep up the good work.
Tyson is just a paid actor, he knows nothing more than what someone else, writes for him.
Neil de Grasse is nothing more than a charlatan employed by the government to ridicule, deny and ignore what is staring him and everyone else in the face. The fact that he constantly denies the plausibility let alone the reality that UFO's have been seen by people of calibre that are intelligent, coherent and professional is an indictment on the man himself. A naval aviator with years of experience that is a F18 Superhornet pilot is somehow delusional or just a little bit silly, indicates that not just Tyson but astrophysicists from around the world have been given a charter to ensure that the UFO phenomena is constantly ridiculed. Has anyone ever heard a astrophysicist claim that this is something that needs to be properly investigated and looked at more rigorously scientifically? They all state it is impossible, unbelievable and deniable that the possibility of UFO/Alien visitations is nothing more than comic book stuff. I have only one thing to say to Neil de Grasse Tyson, sir you are a disgrace and unless the government has threatened you or your family if you say that there is credibility to this whole phenomenon, you simply sold your soul for 30 pieces of silver.
It’s cool you’re saying this about Tyson. He’s a tool. Jimmy, I’ve seen so much creepy stuff and have personally had next level life experiences and yet can’t talk about it publicly. I try but it’s useless. Keep going buddy, love your channel!!
Great video Jimmy. Snake in deGrass Tyson constantly manages to present himself as a complete buffoon and is in reality nothing but a Nasa shill. He is totally devoid of any abstract intelligence whatsoever and should be ignored at all costs.
been wondering the same , pentagon and pilot come forward and hardly a word on the mainstream media and Neil seems to have lost his marbles
This is coming out now because the swamp is being drained and this is a distraction from every pedo from DC, Hollywood, top FBI and CIA, tops from other countries, EVERYWHERE. Trump said on his first day he was going to stop sex trafficking and he is right now doing it. So yes UFOs are real and the deep state has been hiding it from us just like everything else they hide from us, 9/11, JFK, MLK, Marilyn, the Titanic and EVERYTHING! so yeah stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
UFOGate certainly covers it. Fantastic info as always. Thank you.
We the citizens of this planet do not need the verification of any government agency to tell what we see or don’t see or for them start a campaign of ridicule. We are tired of their bullshit for over 70 years of denials and the smoke and mirrors such as, operation blue book...
You're right on, on every point. I thought exactly the same as you did on most of your points. A little off topic, but I don't trust that Neil deGrasse Tyson guy. When asked whether we really went to the moon, his answer was, "The Saturn 5 rocket was loaded with fuel, so therefore we must have gone". A disinformation agent, if I ever there was one.
First time I've ever seen you, good show.
I još jedan video od jednog kanala koji sam već ovdje preporučio. Secureteam.

Glumac.

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Re: Cooper, Icke, Peterson, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by Michel » 28 Jan 2018, 07:12

Umjesto Jonesa sam ubacio Petersona. Čovjek zaslužuje. Jedan od najboljih intelektualac današnjice.
Jordan Bernt Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist, cultural critic, and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His main areas of study are in abnormal, social, and personality psychology,[1] with a particular interest in the psychology of religious and ideological belief,[2] and the assessment and improvement of personality and performance
Peterson je trenutno jedan od glavnih ako ne i glavni koji se bori protiv SJW, radikalnog feminizma, radikalnog liberalizma i trans osoba. Naravno, s argumentima. Iako se nekad ne slažem oko nekih stvari kao onaj video truth of nature kad je gostovao kod rogana, ali cijenim zato što zna obrazložit zašto tako misli. To cijenim. Više ću cijenit osobu koja obrazloži svoj stav iako se ne slažem nego osobu koja kaže nešto u jednoj rečenici iako se slažem. Tako se vodi rasprava. To fali danas, stvarno je previše ljudi u javnom prostoru bez ikakvih obrazloženja, argumenata. Petersona se ne može izbaciti iz takta. Na mjestu je, nije jedan od onih koji se uzjapure ako im kontriraš. Poslušat ćete i odgovoriti što on misli. Ne nameće već izražava svoje mišljenje. Zašto više nemamo takvih rasprava.

Kao ovi moderni ateisti poput Hitchensa, Harrisa, Dawkinsa i ne znam ko je onaj četvrti. Hitchens je umro, Harrisa još uvijek pratim. Harris i Peterson su imali raspravu i to se uopće nisu slagali, ali su raspravljali satima. To je to, tako se vodi rasprava. Da imamo takve ljude na čelu bilo bi sve bolje ali ne, moramo imati debile. Tako da Jordane Petersone dobro došao u ovu izabranu skupinu. Vjerujem da će pridonijeti svojim vrhunskim argumentima.

Peterson sebe smatra klasičnim britanskim liberalom. Onaj pravi liberal, a ne ovi današnji radikalni.


What a profoundly intelligent man. She just wasn't anywhere near his level of intelligence and suffered humiliation when she lost it at one point. In the end, she simply did what all liberal idiots do. She started insulting him by calling him offensive.
Yep, she didn’t have a chance. Way out of her league. The guy is one of the most brilliant psycho-analysts of our time.
I follow him on YouTube. He has tons of videos there. He became famous because he got into it with the SJWs when he refused to abide to bill C-16 in Canada, which basically makes it a crime to not call someone by their gender fluid self-assigned name.
I liked his YouTube lectures on Nietzsche and Carl Jung. In addition to having a first-rate understanding of psychology, he has an amazing ability to integrate it all into philosophy, as well.
I disagree with Peterson on several things, but in this interview a superb demolition of identity politics. I also liked his evolution/human behaviour chess board analogy.
Is it just me or is this just really hard to listen to?

I mean... how much meditation and yoga do you have to do daily to stay calm during such a trolling interview. Same goes for @SamHarrisOrg, kudos to both.
Damn. I just watched a woman get intellectually murdered on air and I don’t quite know what to do about it..
He could have banged her after that interview. Watch her body language.
Best thing I’ve seen all year - ok it’s been 3 weeks but still, should remain true
This interview, in particular, is a perfect example of why we need guys like him to say exactly what they are thinking. Even if he is wrong I know he actually believes what he is saying, and isn't afraid to say it.
The problem with JBP is that some of his points, esp. when taken in soundbites, can be used to justify some horrible objectives. Look deeper and you see what he's really doing is trying to make sense about nuanced and uncomfortable truths. His beliefs come from study, not hate.
Jordan Peterson is a Juggernaut, just his poise destroyed the liberal reporter.
Graceful. Intellectually honest. Fantastic to watch.
Anyone should aspire to have such a deep understanding of their own ideas, conclusions and philosophy.
She is irrational. He is brilliant. She is an ideologue. He is composed. She is vindictive. He is deliberate. Liberal fail. Priceless
Although JP is an intellectual beast as usual, i also respect the way the lady carries herself in the conversation.

At least she seems genuinely care to know about JP's reasoning and point of view 👍👍👍
She is not a liberal...but a radical leftist. There is a big difference ;). But she's got her a$$ handed to her nonetheless :D.
One of the greatest Champions of free speech in our time!
This guy is an immense debater. Absolutely razor sharp.
Cijeli video

If you haven’t already, you absolutely must watch the encounter between SJW media maven Cathy Newman of Channel 4 News and free-speech-defending Canadian academic Jordan Peterson.

“I don’t think I have ever witnessed an interview that is more catastrophic for the interviewer,” says Douglas Murray.

He’s right.

If you loathe the cant, self-righteousness, and stupidity of the regressive left, then you’ll love this train wreck of an interview. It’s the most satisfying piece of poetic justice since the Comet came unstuck in that tunnel in Atlas Shrugged.

Newman set out to ensnare and destroy someone whose politics she found objectionable — but ended up being hoist by her own petard.

I think this interview marks a pivotal victory in the culture wars — an incident in which the weaknesses of the regressive left have never been more cruelly or damningly exposed.

Newman is the embodiment of the woke millennial generation: white children of privilege on a mission to remake the world anew according to the principles of the thing they call “Social Justice.”

Like so many of the university-educated elite of her generation, she embraces the fashionable politically correct, post-modernist view of the world. This view would have us believe that there is no such thing as objective truth — only a succession of competing “narratives,” some more “privileged” than others.

Self-evidently this is nonsense. Dozens of philosophers far cleverer than Newman and her ilk have established through logic that beyond all doubt that there*is*such a thing as truth.

This is the great ideological divide of our times: not between left and right but between those of us who believe in truth; and those who believe, Oprah style, that we’re all entitled to our own truths and that everyone’s is equally special.

Perhaps the most damning of all the many damning things that can be said about Cathy Newman’s performance in this car crash interview is this: it’s not intelligent.

No, worse than that: it’s anti-intelligent.

And this isn’t an accident. Newman’s anti-intelligence is not a bug but a feature of the way post-modernists think. Their ideology is an explicit rejection of the entire pre-20th century canon of Western thinking — a rejection, indeed, of Western Civilization itself. Never mind the wisdom of the ancients, the moral precepts of Christianity, the skepticism and scientific inquiry of the Enlightenment: all this outmoded thinking, mostly emanating from Dead White Males, must be replaced by a new order based not on first principles, or established tradition, or logic but on “Social Justice.”

This is what was truly so important about this interview. It exposed, more clearly I think than in any adversarial TV encounter I have ever seen, the intellectual emptiness at the heart of the SJWs’ thinking.

Usually, because they’re so strident, aggressive and self-righteous, Social Justice Warriors like Cathy Newman are able to bully their opponents into compliance and give onlookers the impression of being cleverer and better informed than they actually are.

But it just didn’t work with Peterson: he knows his field (clinical psychology) too well, and he has debated Social Justice Warriors too many times to fall into any of their traps. Also, he’s very patient and polite and coy — so despite the numerous points he scored off Newman, he never looked like a bully.

Do you believe in truth, facts, human nature, reason, logic, equality of opportunity, natural justice, tradition, custom, and liberty?
Or are you an SJW?
This whole thing was Jordan saying a fact and her taking it and a different why and say so your saying.
It feels like she's too stupid to follow what he's saying at every step of the conversation. Idk how Jordan is so patient with her.
Jorden is a intellectual monster...
What a shameful interview. I don't think she actively listened to any one of his answers. Hope she reflects on how awful a job she did here.
They try and tell us the media is trustworthy but I've just watched this woman attempt to twist every single thing this man said into what she (and probably channel 4) wanted it to be to support their political ideas.
If Jordan Peterson was to be held captive he would convince his captors to kill themselves before the police could rescue them
Mainstream media is realizing that Jordan Peterson has exposed their nakedness. You will see very little of him on mainstream media. "Can't have people exposing how irrelevant and out-of-touch we really are!"
A pivotal moment in human history (the entire interview). Every once in a great while, a real moment of truth occurs in our society with such a crushing blow to expose certain ideology like feminist and liberal dogma. They have been trying to feminize and liberalize culture, corporations, sports, competition, academics, free speech, debate, and society in general for decades. This represents the most devastating defeat of that assault that we will ever witness. This will undoubtedly be studied in psychology, sociology, political science, business, and other behavioral texts and courses for years to come.
I'm generalizing now as well, but it seems that most of the angry feminists are peeeeeerfectly happy generalizing about men, but they get offended once you make just one generalisation about women. "All women are snowflakes". At least you hear the phrase "all women are beautiful [meaning wonderful human beings]" so ceaselessly reiterated, and it's simply a lie. Many women are indeed wonderful human beings, while many are horrible people. Just like men. But where's the phrase "all men are wonderful human beings"? Hardly any men (if any at all) would agree with such a stupid statement!
That was an enjoyable sparing match. Victory to Dr Peterson.
Demonstrates why free speech is important. The feedback one gets strengthens one's arguments and gives them the resilience to soldier on through interviews like this.

I encourage the left to keep opposing it... for themselves. It leaves them without ammunition in battle.
Jordan's good humor made her feel comfortable enough to show some weakness. He was rather disarming and that's how you change minds. Well played!
Jordan is a wizard of knowledge- I wish he would have gotten into the societal implications of whats happening with women being so aggressive towards men, and how the agenda to masculate women and emasculate men is rampant all across the globe right now, its the yin and the yang of the world, we need balance, we need the mother earth and father sky together, however, we've now made women hardened and men apathetic because you cant argue against this ideology, well technicially you can,,.. For Now.. until they start throwing men and women in concentration camps for not adopting these leftist ideologies such as transgenderism and everything that goes along with it...
This woman is a full blown Feminazi and demonstrated her full Feminist indoctrination in this video via her vapid, rude, and fallacy ridden inquisition of constant twisting of everything Peterson said. At best she is a reforming Feminazi wanting Peterson to save her from her cancerous, mind-rotting dogma. More likely she is a pinnacle example of a Feminazi.
Jordon Peterson will probably never be aloud back on the show. Channel 4 was probably hoping he would be humiliated in the interview, instead it was the other way around.
She probably read all of the poorly written, biased, and misrepresented articles about Peterson's views, and assumed they were right. And she got burned for it.
OH MY GOD. I'm a woman..and I feel ashamed having this woman talking for "us". I'm sure she's nice and hard working and all that jazz but my god! She doesn't listen! And she dismisses logic like nothing. I can't
This truly is Jordan at his best, his linguistic ability and temperament here were perfectly suited to the interview. I watch this with my wife and her attitude to the pay gap completey changed.
Professor Peterson is a true gentleman. I love his smile when he “got” her, and his body language of inclusion. I’m right and you’re wrong, but I still love ya!
Ovo sa lobsterom kad da analogiju je sve ikad :supz:
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Polsije intervjua ženska je napadnuta sa prijetnjama, vrijeđanjem. Mislim, ja je sad ismijavam kao i svi, ali ne vrijeđm ništa no po običaju mala grupa ljudi počeli joj prijetit i evo što je Peterson napisao i što bi trebao svaki intelektualac napraviti jer se tako raspravlja makar se ne slažete.
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Samo još jedan dokaz koliko je čovjek pošten i ne mrzi nikoga. Samo argumenti, stavovi, dokazi. Mislim da trenutno na tom polju kojem je on ne postoji bolje pripremljeniji čovjek od Petersona isto kao što na polju debunkanja religije ne postoji čovjek koji je pripremljeniji od Sama Harrisa.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/sta ... 5709628417 a opet u komentarima vidim da ljudi ne mogu naći te navodne prijetnje.

:lol: :lol:
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Internet je poludio. Jedan od najboljih videa ove godine. Rade se cijelo vrijeme analize po youtubeu. Peterson školuje.

Honestly that interview/debate was one of the most impressive things i have ever seen. And not just because he kept his cool and masterfully handled those ridiculous attacks, but because it absolutely shines a spotlight on the difference between arguing for something you believe and arguing for something you have researched and tested and have solid empirical evidence for. It is kind of the facts vs feelings statement that ben shapiro says without the anecdote it puts on display how much more solidly facts stand up when confronted with feelings and opinions. We should all take away from this the importance of doing our own research. If we feel strongly enough about an issue to engage others about it we had better do the research and come armed with solid facts and lots of them because they are the only thing that stand up to the type of appeal to emotion tactics and character assasination tactics that have become common place in todays political and academic environments.
Frankly, I think Dr. Peterson clearly recognized that Newman was never going to change her mind, never going support him, and always going to see him as an enemy. Once he realized that, the "gotcha" was a perfectly sensible option: if someone has made it clear that no matter what you do or say, they will always be your enemy, it's best to let them know that they will never, ever beat you. Frankly, my experience has shown that there's always hope, but my experience has also shown me that the effort required is sometimes absolutely not worth it. If you can't get them to join you, beat them savagely.
That was the most entertaining debate i have ever watched tbh
Peterson's "Ha, gotcha!" is pure brilliance. It crystallizes the entire interview into one moment, after which they both laugh. Peterson is completely dominant and yet the only thing he does is throw a light-hearted "Ha, gotcha!" at Cathy. The message is clear; he's dangerous, but civilized. A man to respect.
Daniel Day-Lewis should play Jordan Peterson in a biopic.
Dr. Peterson's "Gotcha" saved Cathy Newman. An interviewer being rendered speechless by the interviewee is about the worst possible gaffe they can commit, HE SAVED HER from the silence, he did not humiliate her by immediately pressing her for a response, which would have been compatible with Dr.Peterson's position which in turn would have compounded her problem.
if you watch Cathy Newman's body language and expressions she is actually impressed by Dr.Peterson's dominance, something I doubt she is used to and to, she was getting excited but trying to contain it.
Probably the best video I've seen in the last 5 years on Youtube. I work for management who employ these same tactics. That's one reason I realize I have to go out on my own and work for myself.
Man that interview was golden! It was the greatest comedy I've seen in over a year.
It literally brought tears of laughter to my eyes. Hahahahahaha!
Dawkins je isto imao jebenih videa. Ovaj je prejak :prayer:

I ovaj je jeben video.

A ovo je nešto najbolje što sam vidio ove godine :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ha, gotcha majke mi počet ću koristit tu riječ.
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Re: Cooper, Icke, Peterson, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by Michel » 29 Jan 2018, 16:32

Naišao na ovo http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/sto- ... 21927.aspx :facepalm: :facepalm:

To to, njemu smeta Mišak, a ne smetaju mu svi ti znanstvenici koji imaju svoju ideologiju, koji podržavaju ili hdz ili sdp. To mu ne smeta, ali smeta mu Mišak pa da te pitam index debilu a što je sa onim znanstvenicima koji su podržali Mišaka. O njima ne želiš govoriti, ha? Točno se sjećam kad je bilo to potpisivanje za Mišaka i koliko je ljudi potpisalo a koliko malo da mu se emisija ugasi. Trn im je u oku i neka, govori o stvarima o kojima se treba govoriti gdje je mnogima otvorio oči.
Njemu svoje novce rado dam na trošenje. Za razliku od ostalih papaka sa HRT-a koji ne zasluže niti minimalac ovaj dečko već godinama ljudima širi vidike. Daj žiro za dodatne uplate majstore
Potpuno se slažem !!!
A stvarno Index, čemu ovakav članak?
Ne znam što Vam smeta Mišak koji je jedan od rijetkih koji se usudi progovoriti o stvarima koje su tabu tema i koje upravljaju našim životima i našom mini državicom.

On je jedan od rijetkih ljudi na HRT-u koji zaslužuje naše poštovanje i ima jednu od najinteresantnijih i najdugovječnijih emisija ne samo u Hrvatskoj nego i puno šire.

Bilo bi Vam zrelije da se više bavite legalnim pljačkama jadne Hrvatske od strane nenarodne vlasti koja ne počiva na retultatima izbora nego na prevari birača i kupovini glasova od ljudskog ološa.
Pa pogledaj tko je autor. Ljubomorni kmečavi wannabe znanstvenik jarić. Ala gušta kako kmeči!! A objavljuje na ovom portalu čiji je bivši suvlasnik pokrao građane za miljune kuna (pravomoćna presuda)...ali je on kao moralna vertikala hihi.
Pa i ljudi gušteri koji imaju reptilski sklop, a izgledaju ka normalni ljudi. Shapeshipteri su opet drugo. Niti gledamo isto niti vidimo isto. Ženskoj dođe u srid noči isus i kaže joj da se triba zaredit i sad ti njoj reci da joj nije bija isus o reka, a ona išla u švore do kraja života. Nekima dođe isus pa reče da se tribaju svuć pa se svuču.
Svak uzima ono šta mu se čini prihvatljivo i ne postoji niko ko bi triba prodavat jedinu istinu, a najlakše je vladat s ljudima kad se kontrolira istina.
Mišak prilazi istraživanju svijeta oko nas otvorenog uma, bez dogmi i cenzure a neke od tabu tema koje Mišak navodi a Vi tražite da navedem su tajna društva i bankarski lobiji koja iz sjene upravljaju gotovo svime bitnim što se u svijetu događa.

Chemtrailsi su također činjenica koju korumpirana znanost negira jer su plaćeni da to čine.
Za chemtrailse su u početku govorili kako je to običan kondenzirani zrak koji nastaje u određenim vremenskim uvjetima ali ako se malo bolje informirate vidjet ćete da tu i tamo poneki NATO-vac izađe sa priznanjem kako oni zaista to čine... pogledajte malo njemačka istraživanja o tome...

Naravno NATO-vac nikad neće priznati potpunu istinu nego njihova zaprašivanja objašnjavaju BORBOM PROTIV GLOBALNOG ZATOPLJENJA.
Aha znači do jučer su potpuno negirali a sad malo po malo to postaje borba protiv zatopljenja... znači do jučer su LAGALI.

Ako su lagali tada tko nam kaže da ne lažu i dalje samo malo u drugom smjeru...

Razmislite o svemu i barem jednom u životu malo otvorenijeg uma, glupavo je dočekati starost a da Vam čitam život prođe u totalnoj zatucanosti iako za većinu glupavog naroda je upravo to njihova sudbina, protratiti život a ništa ne shvatiti tipa Hanžeković koji je i sam u svom zadnjem obraćanju javnosti pred kraj prošle godine to priznao.
Ljudi vole zatucanost. Sjede pred UHD televizorom, naruče pizzu dostavom, gledaju NetFlix i raduju se kapitalističkom snu. Čak ne žele ni da ih netko probudi iz kapitalističke letargije. Kao, kakve veze ima što netko "zaprašuje" atmosferu kad je njima u kući fino. Odrade svojih 12 sati u nekoj IT firmi, sklepaju špageti kod za neku web stranicu ili mobilnu aplikaciju sa 1/3 mozga, dođu doma, izvale se i gledaju filmove. Ako su mlađi, između toga uguraju i kakvu teretanu gdje si traže isto takvu partnericu ili partnera. I dobro. Glavno da posao imaju, da ne rade više od 12 sati na dan i da se može otplaćivati doživotni kredit za stan od 25 kvadrata.
Loš pokušaj, Index. Mišakova emisija jedna je od rijetkih interesantnih na HRT. On se sam nikada i nije nazivao znanstvenikom i njegova emisija i ima u opisu bavljenje rubnim područjima znanosti. Međutim, Index zanemaruju činjenicu da su stotine vrhunskih znanstvenika iz Hrvatske, Slovenije i drugih zemalja gostovali u njegovoj emisiji i to priznatih znanstvenika, iz područja elektrotehnike, medicine, psihologije itd...Uostalom, koliko ja vidim Mišak na tribini gostuje u ime Hrvatske televizije, a ne kako "znanstvenik". Nedaj se, Mišak.
Zaboravljate da Indeks prijateljuje sa kvaziSTEM-ovcima, libertarijancima, biznis folirantima i propalim matematičarima koji su prešli u brokere. Oni Mišaka ne mogu smisliti, jer je zapravo on na drugoj strani znanosti. Ovi ju vuku prema poslovno-materijalnom i plitkom, a Mišak ju vuče prema mašti.
Znanost ne može funkcionirati bez mašte.
Čak dva najbolja hrvatska fizičara koji se ne slažu nužno sa Mišakovim tvrdnjama, ali bili su. Paara nisam uračunao. Jedan je Kumerički, a drugog sam zaboravio. Sjetit ću se. Sad sam u IT vodama, mozak mi ne radi (ugasili su ga uspješno). Sjetih se. Prester. A sad sam se sjetio i da je Mišak imao interview sa Haroldom Hal Puthofom, personifikacijom onoga što se misli kad se kaže: "E, znate vi kaj Ameri imaju a skrivaju od javnosti".
Mišak JEST kao novinar u znanosti. Imao je intervjue, ako se ne varam sa: Meylom, Presterom, Korlevićem, Kumeričkim, Paarom, Puthofom, Targom, i gomilom Rusa kojih se ja sad ne mogu sjetiti ali vrte se oko slovenskih alternativaca, jer kod njih je scena internacionalna (bijah i ja tamo). Sad se sam informiraj tko je Harold Hal Puthof na primjer. Ja ću ti samo reći da je inženjer, i izumitelj podešavajućeg lasera. Jedan od ljudi u Fort Meadeu i SRI Think Tanku. Hebate kad gledam što je domet znanstvenika u Hrvatskoj, ovi su Einsteini. Svi su malo trknuti u glavu, ali bolje i to nego da se bave ekonomijom i optimizacijama ovog-i-onog kao svi naši (koji nisu ekonomisti). Optimizacija: gniječi spužvu da iscijediš još koju kap vode. VS otkrij nove izvore vode. Ovo ide i onog štedioničara Muska sa onom raketom koja vraća 1. stupanj. Jebeš prvi stupanj i to što je više puta upotrebljiv, kad je sam pogon primitivan. A još od Einsteina iz 1915. nitko nije zaorao dublje u gravitacijsku tehnologiju. A tu leže moderne propulzije. ne možeš spaljivati hidrazin, vodik, diesel i aluminij i time letjeti u svemir.
npr. puljak se stalno miješa u teme o kojima nema nikakvo formalno obrazovanje...dapače tako se ponašaju skoro svi tvoji mainstream talibani...s kompleksom boga dolaze i petljaju se u sve živo, ali nisam te vidio na tim člancima da njima prigovaraš? baš zanimljivo. toliko o tebi.

" Pozivaš se na argument autoriteta" --- Zapravo ti to radiš ;)

U emisiji NRZ ekipa dolazi slobodno pričati bez o čemu god hoće...davati neko svoje mišljenje i argumente...ali vi fašisti ne možete ni to tolerirati...bagro talibanska.
Mišakov mentalitet je više znanstveni nego svih tih 'stručnjaka' zajedno.
Ta ekipa 'stručnjaka' koja ga pljuje očito ne shvaća znanost niti kako funkcionira. Radi se o hrpi napuhanih, samodopadnih krkana sa kompleksom boga.
Inače, u znanosti ne postoji apsolutno nijedna ideja koja ne može biti podvrgnuta preispitivanju.
U znanosti su jedini argument činjenice, a ne emotivno stanje tzv. stručnjaka.

Emisija NRZ upravo to radi, preispituje sve i svašta, gdje gosti ostavljaju bolje ili lošije argumente.
Ali preispituje sve i svašta i tako potiče kritičko razmišljanje. U toj emisiji možeš naći potpune gluposti ali fantastične temeteme. Da bi sam mogao shvatiti što je što, trebaš itekako razmišljati o onome što slušaš.
A ne uzimati informacije zdravo za gotovo od autoriteta s kompleksom boga, kao u klasičnim, suhoparnim znanstvenim emisijama.

Zapravo je ta emisija imala jedan od najvećih utjecaja pri mom razvoju kritičkog razmišljanja.
Zahvalite Mišaku što vas svakodnevno šamaram po komentarima i ne pušim Imbexove spinove.
Da npr. Mišak živi u pedesetima i napravi emisiju "Pušenje je štetno", tada bi se sjatili ovi tzv. stručnjaci i popljuvali ga da promovira pseudoznanost i da je medicina već dokazala da u pušenju nema ništa loše.

Ali... Znamo što se poslije dogodilo. To je jedan primjer, u znanosti je takvih primjera koliko hoćete.
Znanstvena metoda sama po sebi jest objektivna i nepristrana.
Ali znanstvenici su ljudi sa emocijama, sa odgojem. Ne razumijem zašto netko misli da su znanstvenici apriori nepristrani i točni. I zašto zdravo za gotovo uzimaju sve što kažu. A onda se rugate svećenicima i vjernicima.
Pa isti ste.
Bolje i pesudoznanost od rvacke adeze kvazi kamenjarske znanosti, a kojih je nazovi "akademika" prepuna akademija. Osim toga, oni otvorena uma naći će u mistici mnoge teme vrijedne istraživanja.
Smjesno je jedino sto index od avega pravi bauk. Pod pokroviteljstvom piznate zagovornice alternative, kazu. Pa sta jbt, pa nije da je zagovornik neke ultra ideologije. Uvijek i svemu treba postojati alternativa, to je sudbina napredka..a ne pljuvati ama bas po svemu i uvijek cim se nadje neka veza ili netko nije apsolutno steucan u necemu
Od kud su mi poznati ovakvi likovi koji se striktno i grčrvito drže službene znanosti? Ah da, ti su donedavno spaljivali na lomačama one koji su se usudjivali izaći iz njenih okvira. Ali budući da danas to ne smiju, onda je popularno etiketiranje s "pobornik teorija urote".
Da je po vama, još bi se vozili na kolima s kamenim kotačima.
Na rubu znanosti je jedna od najboljih emisija na hrt-u, i ne treba ni biti znanstvena. Dovoljno je da nam govori o stvarima za koje ne bi čuli, ni znali da postoje, ni da su moguće. Mišak, keep up the good work!
Podržavam Mišaka. On je čak MANJE RADIKALAN od mene. Znanost ne može postojati bez pseudoznanosti. Pretvara se u normativni sinkretizam. Zapravo šuplju priču i gomilanje dokumenata, normi i papira.
Danas vam se u znanost gura biznis. Umjesto znanstvene objektivnosti gura unutra sviđalice. Ali normirane sviđalice. Pazite ovo: znanost o planiranju poslovnih procesa. Halo! Drugim riječima, gura u znanost metodologiju pisanja papira o sviđalicama.
I što onda grakćete na kvaziznanost kad imate znanost o produkciji papira? Znanost crtanja dijagrama o onome što netko misli da jest a ne što zaista dokazano jest. To je odprilike isto kao da ja sad zamislim ravnu Zemlju i onda pod znanost proguram crtanje dijagrama i logičku analizu hipoteze o ravnoj Zemlji, a da pri tome samu ravnu Zemlju ne dovodim u pitanje. To radi crkva, vrlo kvalitetno, već 2000 godina. Biznis je samo preuzeo model i metodiku. Jer znanost mora počivati na znanstvenom POZITIVIZMU, dakle EKSPERIMENTU. Ako ja pretpostavim da se nešto odvija onako kako se meni sviđa da se to odvija, a onda produciram 200 tona standarda i metoda prikazivanja moje SVIĐALICE, bez da išta mjerim i dokazujem, TO ONDA NIJE ZNANOST. Kod kvaziznanosti Mišakovog tipa, neka su mjerenja postojala. Zaista se mjerilo fotomultiplikatorima HEF, zaista je Kontantin Meyl mjerio elektromagnetsko zračenje. Benveniste je zaista mjerio utjecaj razrijeđenih otopina na antitijela. To što netko to nije prihvatio ne znači da mjerenja nema. Što se danas u biznisu zaista mjeri? Čak i kada se mjeri, zapravo se prekopiraju šprance iz statističke fizike. Mjere se tokovi nekakvih tokena. Izmišljenih tokena. Pravi se znanost od ničega. Kladim se da će uskoro u biznis modeliranje ući i mikrokanonski te velekanonski ansambli. Samo je to falilo da priča bude kompletna. Već su ugurali cijelu statistiku, čak i poissonovu raspodjelu.
Dosta ideja u povijesti su bile ismijavane kao pseudoznanost da bi na kraju bile priznate kao stvarne. Znanstvenici bi trebali biti otvorena uma, a ne cenzorski se ponašati .
Njegove emisije su toliko omiljene, da bi bilo suludo da mu HRT ne odobri takvo sto. Mozemo mi misliti o alternativi, homeopatiji i slicnim stvarima sto hocemo, ali oni koji misle drugacije imaju isto tako pravo da misle. Cak i mnogi lijecnici priznaju cesto ucinak nekonvencionalnih metoda lijecenja, ali se ne smiju izjasniti javno. Vjerojatno je tu najveci problem sto se konvencionalni lijekovi proglasavaju neucinkovitim. Da se Tesla, kao i mnogi drugi vrhunski znanstvenici drzao samo konvencionalnog i priznatog od struke razmisljanja ne bi nikada izmislio nista. I na koncu emisija se koliko znam i zove" Na rubu znanosti", pa u cemu je onda problem? Pa to je jedan od rijetkih sadrzaja na HTV koji je gledljiv.
Slobodno se može usporediti Mišakova izlaganja s nekim izlaganjima akademika,da ne spominjem doktore tipa hasana,željkice,kojundžića,pašalića...dečko nikad nije tvrdio da je nešto što nije.Ili usporedba Ickea i gostovanja na hrt jednog mesića,kolinde,plenkija,vase.Ko je po izrečenom šarlatan i ko priča gluposti?Koliko je mene Icke koštao u životu?Sam termin emisije,nekad iza ponoći,govori koliko mu je hrt davao pažnje,A svejedno se gledalo...Može se usporediti i šta ide u 8 na hrt pa raspravljati o šarlatanima,zavjerama i doktorima.Kod kojih nikad nisam išao,ako je šta ozbiljnije,bez plave koverte...
U članku su navedene budalaštine kontrolnog sistema jer ako na održanome skupu nije bilo jurišnika sistema onda ka skup me važi i ka nebi se triba održavat u drżavnim ustanovama.
Index priznaje samo onu znanost koja je ideološki kimpatibilna u svrhu svrstavanja ovaca u dva suprotstavljena tora, a da pri tome ni jedna ovčica ne ostane vanka torova.
To sve teže prolazi kod slobodnih ljudi jer oni uzimaju k sebi ono šta im ima smisla bez obzira s koje strane dolazilo.
kakav je ovo tekst , tko kaže da znanstveno nisu dokazane metode alternativnih liječenja , mislim o čemu ti pričaš . Kakav to lobi ti zastupaš. Ovo je govor mržnje i diskriminacije . Sram te bilo . Očito je potrebno ovome društvu dirastična promjena razmišljanja . Prestanite na sve stvari oko sebe gledati negativno . To je prva bolest koju morate riješiti unutar svoje psihe . I više se informirati , a ne samo čitati literature nekakvih pseudo liječnika , koji zasupaju misao da jedna tabletica riješava sve probleme u životu .
Koji znanstvenici se bune? Da li mislite na danasnje placenike ciji je jedini zadatak siriti znanstvene istine tipa gmo je spas i slicna sranja za odredjenu kolicinu love? Znanost je danas u sluzbi kapitala i kao takva je vjerodostojna koliko i hdz
Ajde Index ne serite. Mišak zna više o znanosti nego svi novinari Indexa zajedno.................... Odite vi lijepo u Crkvu pa tamo slušajte "istinu" o svijetu. Posebno obratite pažnju na dijelove Bibilije gdje se priča o demonima, koji su gle čuda, opisani kao reptili.
Obzirom koliko plaćamo 1. političare i sabornike, 2. Kolindu koja je davno obećala smanjiti troškove ureda i smanjiti zaposlene na 2/3 a proračun Ureda se povećao umjesto smanjio 3. pa onda sve one vjeroučitelje a koji djecu ne uče Vjeri i jednako tako se sve može svrstati pod pseudoznanstveno 4. i sve one ogromne novce da bi Košić i ekipa super domove i vozili mercedese - definitivno onda i Mišak može potrošiti nešto novaca.
Niti uz najboljoju volju ne kužim što ste htjeli ovim člankom....l'art pur l'lart-izam....ako nešto ne razumijete,to ne znači automatski da ne valja...svesti svoje postojanje na čisto materijalističko biti,svojevrsna je smrt.Ako već ne volite Mišaka,preporučam "Anatomija ljudske destruktivnosti" ili " Umijeće ljubavi" Erich Fromm,ili bilo što od Karl Gustav Jung-a,pa ćete naći more toga što Mišak promovira.A o taoizmu i zen-budizmu ćemo drugom zgodom.
Nenade,uvijek sam te podržao no sada si me razočarao s ovim komentarom. I ja dam svoj prilog ako treba i bio bih sretan kad bi na televiziji imali ne 1 već 2 Mišaka. Osim toga, i službena znanost ima jako puno toga što nema veze s znanosti već nažalost služi korporacijama.
špricanje po indexu u komentarima loooool
hahahaha.znanstvenici kreću u kampanju protiv kreše,jedine svijetle točke na htv-u,izgleda da im smeta krešina svijest jer je izgleda 4 puta veća nego u naših znanstvenika koji uglavnom imaju kupljene diplome iz mostara ili prepisane
Upravo kak je netko napisao. Svi oni imaju svoju ideloogiju, ali važno da ti znanstvenici nikad ne progovaraju i bore se protiv ekipe na vlasti. To nema šanse, a nema jer ih vlada plaća, jer su uhljebi i jer mnogi od njih su ili sdp ili hdz. Naravno da ne žele. Serem se na takve znanstvenike koji imaju svoju ideologiju. Čovjek se ideologijom pa makar on bio nikola tesla je govno. Nikad ećemo naprijed sve dok nemamo ljudi koji su otvorenog uma i kritizirat će sve a neće kritizirat jedno da bi branio drugo kao ona Selekica ili Raspudić.

I to je ono što sam ja više šuta pisao da su znanstvenici = radikalni vjernici. Ograničenost na n-tu. I to neki ne kuže kad im kažeš i onda oni kažu pa oni su različiti. Nema veze jer što se tiče ograničenosti ISTI SU. Nemaju otvoren um. Svako fura svoju ideologiju.

Al Krešo je jedna poštena i zbilja dobra i neiskvarena osoba. Ja tog čovjeka nisam nikad vidio nervoznog, da se s ikime svađa. Dopušta raspravu, ne ljuti se i ono najbitnije objasni svoj stav makar se ne slagao s njim. Stvarno objsni sve školski da znaš zašto on tako razmišlja.

Ovo mi je jedna od njegovih najdražih videa.

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Re: Cooper, Icke, Peterson, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by Michel » 04 Feb 2018, 13:26

Evo Rogan je odmah pozvao opet Petersona za novi intervju :D








Nova knjiga od njega. Jedva čekam naručit https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-An ... 0345816021
“Like the best intellectual polymaths, Peterson invites his readers to embark on their own intellectual, spiritual and ideological journeys into the many topics and disciplines he touches on. It’s a counter-intuitive strategy for a population hooked on the instant gratification of ideological conformity and social media ‘likes,’ but if Peterson is right, you have nothing to lose but your own misery.” —Toronto Star

“In a different intellectual league. . . . Peterson can take the most difficult ideas and make them entertaining. This may be why his YouTube videos have had 35 million views. He is fast becoming the closest that academia has to a rock star.” —The Observer

“Grow up and man up is the message from this rock-star psychologist. . . . [A] hardline self-help manual of self-reliance, good behaviour, self-betterment and individualism that probably reflects his childhood in rural Canada in the 1960s. As with all self-help manuals, there’s always a kernel of truth. Formerly a Harvard professor, now at the University of Toronto, Peterson retains that whiff of cowboy philosophy—one essay is a homily on doing one thing every day to improve yourself. Another, on bringing up little children to behave, is excellent…. [Peterson] twirls ideas around like a magician.” —Melanie Reid, The Times

“You don’t have to agree with [Peterson’s politics] to like this book for, once you discard the self-help label, it becomes fascinating. Peterson is brilliant on many subjects. . . . So what we have here is a baggy, aggressive, in-your-face, get-real book that, ultimately, is an attempt to lead us back to what Peterson sees as the true, the beautiful and the good—i.e. God. In the highest possible sense of the term, I suppose it is a self-help book. . . . Either way, it’s a rocky read, but nobody ever said God was easy.” —Bryan Appleyard, The Times
This guy just says common sense stuff and it triggers the shit out of the dumbasses
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Re: Cooper, Icke, Peterson, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by hitman_4 » 08 Feb 2018, 10:23

http://www.index.hr/black/clanak/elon-m ... 24570.aspx

brutalno začepio usta ravnoMzemljašima :D
Ocekujemo molitvene zajednice za "ravnu Zemlju", referendum i da u Ustav RH udje da je Zemlja ravna, a nebi bilo lose ni dignuti sator i prosvjedovati (uz janj'tinu) protiv onih koji ugrozavaju "dignitet" ravne Zemlje
ne mogu vjerovati da u današnje vrijeme postoje horde morona koji vjeruju da je zemlja ravna...
Ravna Zemja je za pitchke! Pravi jebatchi vjeruju u ravno Sunce
ljudi se sprdaju sa ravnoMzemljašima

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Re: Cooper, Icke, Peterson, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by Michel » 08 Feb 2018, 13:46

Odličan video koji otvara oči. Naravno, slijepima neće :P

Ajd kužim kad netko ne vjeruje ne neke stvari, ali toliko vjerovati NASA hahaha :lol: :rolleyes: ovaj video jedan od većih dokaza što sam vidio. FeliHxe, razotkriven si već odavno kao lažni.

Ovo na 6:10 je sve ikad nekakva prašina hahahahaha u svemiru. Ovo je prečvrst dokaz. Zastrašujuće što se događa :jawbreaker:
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Post by hitman_4 » 08 Feb 2018, 14:00

ravnoMzemljaš:
Zemlja je ravna ploča
Vjerujem u ravno sunce
Celebrityji glume sljepoću i sl. bolesti samo da bi nam se smijali
Za sve su krivi zli liberali
Đastin Biberica je čovjek gmaz
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Re: Cooper, Icke, Peterson, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by olio » 08 Feb 2018, 15:31

Michel wrote:
08 Feb 2018, 13:46
Odličan video koji otvara oči. Naravno, slijepima neće :P

Ajd kužim kad netko ne vjeruje ne neke stvari, ali toliko vjerovati NASA hahaha :lol: :rolleyes: ovaj video jedan od većih dokaza što sam vidio. FeliHxe, razotkriven si već odavno kao lažni.

Ovo na 6:10 je sve ikad nekakva prašina hahahahaha u svemiru. Ovo je prečvrst dokaz. Zastrašujuće što se događa :jawbreaker:
tip nije skocia iz svemira...nego iz stratosfere.

"vjerovati NASAi"

? Red Bull...red bull je organizator skoka i sponzor.

"vidi se okrugla zemlja!!! nemoguće"
kamere imaju široke objektive, da se vidi što više. Inače bi bilo glupo za gledati onaj dio iz njegove perspektive, preuzak bi bia kut gledanja, ništa se ne bi vidilo.

I ovo sranje što govori kako je izrezano i kako "nestaju metri". To je video sa sluzbenog gopro kanala...video koji je reklama, koji je srezan na najzanimljivije dijelove skoka, izrezan je dio gdje se vrti. Imaš cijelu faking snimku na internetu! Znaci cijelu dok pada sa tih gopro kamera. I cijela snimka je bila prikazana tijekom prijenosa na TVu
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Post by hitman_4 » 08 Feb 2018, 15:41

sad će tebi ravnoMzemljaš objasniti, ček da pogleda jubitu komentare :lol:

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Re: Cooper, Icke, Peterson, Mišak i ostali fun club

Post by Michel » 12 Feb 2018, 19:45

Ovo je najbolji video do sad. OBAVEZNO pogledati. Razotkriva puno. Joe Rogan je njihov, to se znalo ali ovaj video sve govori. Dobro se zna da mu se prijetilo ozbiljno, dobro se zna da je rekao da će biti njihov ako mu pokažu nešto. POGLEDATI!

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